Bewinners Down more then Up.

**GFPC** · 12 October 2010, 9:15 am

Considering the failed launch of the bewinners program last week and the uproar it has caused anyone else noticing nothing works?

So far the stats have not worked for more days then not, and now the site is down period.

I cannot even log in!!!

**thepokerkeep** · 12 October 2010, 2:17 pm

The site being down is a good thing.... new and/or unsuspecting affiliates will move on to a better program if they can't log in to this one.

**GFPC** · 12 October 2010, 4:17 pm

Yeah i know your opinion of them

. I am still so very hopeful and prey to GOD they resolve this issue and reverse their decision on these terms.

As i have said countless times I always loved bwin because I felt they were strong brand and they always did good by me personally. I like my affiliate manager and just want things to go back to friendly as business grows.

I still promote them and I know some people ask me why? The reason is I have trust and hope that they will stop this idiocy.

At the same I also need to be responsive to my peers and do everything in my power to support them and share how unhappy we all are about these predatory terms...

Anyways I feel like I am caught on the fence here - I just hope they do the right thing and change those awful terms soon.

I feel its a 80% chance they do! Hopeful eh?

**GFPC** · 12 October 2010, 7:47 pm

Here is something very interesting !! Bwin should learn from GAP. Admit their mistake and get things back to normal and move on. This stalling things out is not good for anyone.

Read this:

https://ca.news.finance.yahoo.com/s/1...-new-logo.html

Hope Bwin does the same as GAP. Even Gap can admit error

**jarvi** · 12 October 2010, 8:39 pm

In order to apologise, first they have to realise they were wrong. I'm not sure that is the case yet.

Pretty sure I have posted this somewhere else here at GPWA. It's not that difficult to sorry and even high profile people do it when they are wrong.

Jeff Bezos Kindle Apology

**GFPC** · 13 October 2010, 2:43 am

Yeah around day 4 or 5 and stats are still down. No indication when they will be up again, and no contact form Ams.

EDIT: Here is the message i keep seeing.

Sorry!

bewinners.com is temporarily unavailable. We are currently working on a solution, please try again later. We are sorry for any inconvenience caused.

Any chance someone from Bwin can come here and explain whats happening, since its been 4-5 days??

Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

**Benitho** · 14 October 2010, 10:07 am

One week now since the launch (does the term "launch" even qualify here..? - if NASA launches a rocket and it`s nowhere to be found a week later, that would be called differently, I assume) and still NOTHING except the amount of NPAs visible.

Good job, guys - really - You should all be fired !

**GFPC** · 14 October 2010, 1:20 pm

Yeah i have not had statistics since the 10th i believe. I do not know if anything is tracking at all to be honest. Nothing seems to work.

Its just been down for what? 4-5 days now? Hopefully it wont take much longer to get back online and do what its suppose to do.

Hopefully a bwin rep can come and help clarify what the issue is and give us an ETA but i am afraid they have not shown up to share at this point.

Note: I still officially request bewinners please stop the predatory terms. You are hurting the affiliate community severely. Please do whats right. Thank you.

**mallai** · 15 October 2010, 4:08 am

Dear all,

please accept our apologies. We are working on the matter and we will inform you as soon as the technical problems have been fixed.

Best regards,

Your bewinner team

**GFPC** · 15 October 2010, 11:41 am

Originally Posted by mallai

Dear all,

please accept our apologies. We are working on the matter and we will inform you as soon as the technical problems have been fixed.

Best regards,

Your bewinner team

Do you have an ETA on when the statistics will work? I recall a year ago Europartners had the same issue and it took a year to correct of which it is still not corrected.

Do you forecast this to work in the year 2010?

Regards,

Your belosers team
www.belosers.com

**GFPC** · 17 October 2010, 4:39 pm

It has been at least 1 full week now! Seven days we have not had statistics listed in our accounts.

Is it safe to say the Bewinners backend is flawed? and not functional?

**GFPC** · 18 October 2010, 1:24 am

Day 8 no stats - affiliate system down!

Oh yeah

**EugeneK** · 18 October 2010, 6:06 am

I have a little inside from how Bwin works. It is very big machine, the decision making process is very very slow. IMHO they don't understand what is going on here. So my recommendations remain the same. Don't put a lof of efforts in working with huge programs.

**GFPC** · 18 October 2010, 6:49 am

Originally Posted by EugeneK

I have a little inside from how Bwin works. It is very big machine, the decision making process is very very slow. IMHO they don't understand what is going on here. So my recommendations remain the same. Don't put a lof of efforts in working with huge programs.

I really think they do know what is going on. But if they don't they sure will soon enough. This is the beginning of a long drawn out power struggle that I am afraid affiliates will not give up on. No matter what the cost.

**mallai** · 18 October 2010, 10:56 am

GFPC: I have talked to your Account Manager and she confirmed that you migrated successfully and also logged in successfully- so why do you say you cannot log-in? If you need advice on this, please contact your Account Manager, she is more than happy to help you.
As a poker affiliate of your size you will benefit substantially from the new program. And with a working internet connection, our program has always been available.

We apologised already several times for the statistics incidient- your data is all recorded correctly and the issue should be solved within the next days. It's a technical issue and we apologise for this unforeseen occurence.

If you want to talk in person, don't hesitate to contact your Account Managers or to send me a private mail- we are more than happy to discuss everything in detail and we have could agree with everybody that has met us on the convention, or has talked to us about his concrete case.

BR
your bewinners team

**GFPC** · 18 October 2010, 6:22 pm

Mallai: I can log in yes. Maybe I was not clear. What I meant to say was I along with the 1000s affiliates that work for you - we cannot see our stats. It is off course been almost 10 days now. Would you be able to tell me who your technical team is? I am unaware of how it could take 10 days - unless your using similar technical people like Europartners - who still to this day after 1 year have not fixed. Anyways I will continue to look an see if they work.

Also Mallai can I please I have an ETA of when your team will stop the predatory terms and conditions? Just want to know the date you will revert back to the old terms

Yours truly,

**mallai** · 21 October 2010, 4:00 am

Hi GFPC,

your trackers are all recorded correctly, and we are working on fixing the statistics display in the log-in area. The technical challenge is being solved and it will work 100% from then on- we want to ensure this and that's why it takes some time- we apologize for this.

BR
bewinners

**GFPC** · 21 October 2010, 8:48 am

HI Mallai. Thank you for the answer - but you forgot the second question. When will the predatory bewinners terms and conditions be reverted back to affiliate friendly terms.

regards

Originally Posted by mallai

Hi GFPC,

your trackers are all recorded correctly, and we are working on fixing the statistics display in the log-in area. The technical challenge is being solved and it will work 100% from then on- we want to ensure this and that's why it takes some time- we apologize for this.

BR
bewinners

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