Player is winning nearly every day at Titanbet since 2 Months !!! Is that normal ???

**oyropa** · 5 July 2012, 2:30 pm

<table id="resultsTable" class="tablesorter" cellSpacing="1" cellPadding="0"><thead><tr><th class="group_date first header">Stats date</th><th class="currency header">Casino Rfd Amt
</th><th class="digit header">Casino first deposit cnt</th><th class="digit header">Casino Player</th><th class="currency header">Casino First Deposit Amt</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">01.11.2010 2010-11-01 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">02.11.2010 2010-11-02 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">03.11.2010 2010-11-03 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">04.11.2010 2010-11-04 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">05.11.2010 2010-11-05 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">06.11.2010 2010-11-06 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">07.11.2010 2010-11-07 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">08.11.2010 2010-11-08 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">09.11.2010 2010-11-09 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">10.11.2010 2010-11-10 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">11.11.2010 2010-11-11 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">12.11.2010 2010-11-12 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">13.11.2010 2010-11-13 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">14.11.2010 2010-11-14 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">15.11.2010 2010-11-15 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="repatedHeader"><th class="group_date first header">Stats date</th><th class="currency header">Casino Rfd Amt</th><th class="digit header">Casino first deposit cnt</th><th class="digit header">Casino Player</th><th class="currency header">Casino First Deposit Amt</th></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">16.11.2010 2010-11-16 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">17.11.2010 2010-11-17 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">18.11.2010 2010-11-18 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">19.11.2010 2010-11-19 </td><td>$68.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">20.11.2010 2010-11-20 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">21.11.2010 2010-11-21 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">22.11.2010 2010-11-22 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">23.11.2010 2010-11-23 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">24.11.2010 2010-11-24 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">25.11.2010 2010-11-25 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">26.11.2010 2010-11-26 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">27.11.2010 2010-11-27 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">28.11.2010 2010-11-28 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">29.11.2010 2010-11-29 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="grouped_td">30.11.2010 2010-11-30 </td><td>$0.00</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td></tr></tbody><tfoot><tr class="aggregated"><th class="group total">TOTAL</th><th> $68.00 </th><th> 0 </th><th> 0 </th><th> $0.00

@Robin this is my stats for Nov 2010 , I cant see any registration at 26 Nov
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**lots0** · 6 July 2012, 12:54 pm

Originally Posted by EP Relations

Hi,

First I would like to give Oyropa the exact date this player joined - November 26, 2010. He joined Titan Bet and made his first deposit on the same day. Sports betting is very different from Casino. He might be on a winning streak and we keep a close watch on all players that have such a streak and look into their play. This particular player is not doing anything wrong, he is just being smart about his bets and winning. This is all a part of working in this business. Now he might be winning big but tomorrow maybe he will loose big there is no predicting what will happen.

All our security is very tight and we work with Playtech software which is one of the most secure in this business, we have a great fraud system and we also personally check players who have winning streaks. There is nothing shady going on here, Oyropa just got a player who actually is having some luck.

Robin

Thanks for the reply Robin,

Sounds to me like you might want to work with oyropa to find out why his stats don't show this punters sign up and first deposit.
I would be willing to bet that if oyropa saw the punters sign up and first deposit this discussion would be a lot different.

**oyropa** · 6 July 2012, 4:51 pm

@ Robin there is no Registration in my stats for the 26 Nov 2010 !

<table style="margin-left: -248px;" id="resultsTable" class="tablesorter" cellSpacing="1" cellPadding="0"><thead><tr><th class="group_date first header">Stats date</th><th class="group_product second header">Brand</th><th class="digit header">Casino first deposit cnt</th><th class="digit header">Casino real first deposit cnt</th><th class="digit header">Casino real player</th><th class="digit header">Casino Total Real Players</th><th class="currency header">Casino Rfd Amt</th><th class="currency header">Casino First Deposit Amt</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">26.11.2010 2010-11-26 </td><td class="grouped_td">Titan Bet</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td><td>$0.00</td></tr></tbody><tfoot><tr class="aggregated"><th class="group"> </th><th class="group total">TOTAL</th><th> 0 </th><th> 0 </th><th> 0 </th><th> 0 </th><th> $0.00 </th><th>$0.00 </th></tr></tfoot></table><table id="clonedTable" class="tablesorter" cellSpacing="1" cellPadding="0"><thead><tr><th style="height: 23px;" class="group_date first header">Stats date</th><th class="group_product second header">Brand</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">26.11.2010 2010-11-26 </td><td class="grouped_td">Titan Bet</td></tr></tbody></table>

**oyropa** · 6 July 2012, 4:51 pm

@ Robin why i dont see the player in my stats ?

**Viriatu** · 7 July 2012, 9:14 am

Originally Posted by oyropa

@ Robin there is no Registration in my stats for the 26 Nov 2010 !

<table style="margin-left: -248px;" id="resultsTable" class="tablesorter" cellSpacing="1" cellPadding="0"><thead><tr><th class="group_date first header">Stats date</th><th class="group_product second header">Brand</th><th class="digit header">Casino first deposit cnt</th><th class="digit header">Casino real first deposit cnt</th><th class="digit header">Casino real player</th><th class="digit header">Casino Total Real Players</th><th class="currency header">Casino Rfd Amt</th><th class="currency header">Casino First Deposit Amt</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">26.11.2010 2010-11-26 </td><td class="grouped_td">Titan Bet</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>$0.00</td><td>$0.00</td></tr></tbody><tfoot><tr class="aggregated"><th class="group"> </th><th class="group total">TOTAL</th><th> 0 </th><th> 0 </th><th> 0 </th><th> 0 </th><th> $0.00 </th><th>$0.00 </th></tr></tfoot></table><table id="clonedTable" class="tablesorter" cellSpacing="1" cellPadding="0"><thead><tr><th style="height: 23px;" class="group_date first header">Stats date</th><th class="group_product second header">Brand</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr class="even"><td class="grouped_td">26.11.2010 2010-11-26 </td><td class="grouped_td">Titan Bet</td></tr></tbody></table>

wow what a shocker! Are you telling me your stats are not correct with EP program? oh my this is really a surprise for most of us...

i love the smell of sarcasm in the morning...

there is only one person guilty here oyropa, and that person is you, you have 2 things that matter, traffic and exposure for gambling brands, your in the right track, now you need to do DUE DILIGENCE when partnering up with a brand or program... if you had made some search you would see a lot of people have been going on a rough path with EP migrations and constant reporting problems, FOR " YEARS! many have had closed accounts due to lack of communication (like me) losing some money just so we dont keep losing time chasing money...

Keep you shin up!

**oyropa** · 8 July 2012, 2:31 pm

Originally Posted by EP Relations

Hi,

First I would like to give Oyropa the exact date this player joined - November 26, 2010. He joined Titan Bet and made his first deposit on the same day...
Robin

@ Robin iam still waiting for response ..... why i cant see any new registration and first deposit for 26 Nov 2010 in my stats ?

Thx and best regards.....

**EP Relations** · 9 July 2012, 7:24 am

Hi Oyropa,

After looking into your inquiry about not being able to see this player's deposit from november 26th I noticed that from the stats you keep posting you did not have a sports column. This player registered and made his first deposit with TitanBet. You would need the column Sports RFD to see this deposit. We have opened this column for you in your stats and you should now be able to see that this player deposited to TitanBet on November 26, 2010.

I hope this clears everything up.

Robin

**oyropa** · 9 July 2012, 9:37 am

Originally Posted by EP Relations

Hi Oyropa,
.... We have opened this column for you in your stats and you should now be able to see that this player deposited to TitanBet on November 26, 2010.

I hope this clears everything up.

Robin

@ Thx for response an clearing the situation Robin .......

sorry but i have a last question...... , why there are columns that you hide to your affiliates ?

Why are not all possible columns are opened ?

If the column as example were open at the beginning of my thread , this discussion were superfluous and both would have saved a lot of time.

**EP Relations** · 9 July 2012, 9:51 am

Hi Oyropa,

Every Affiliate account that is opened the stats are set to default. Once a deal is set up via your affiliate manager and depending on the type of deal you have the fields in your stats are changed. These are all things that you and your affiliate manager work out together to best fit your needs. If you feel you need to see other fields in your stats you need to speak to your affiliate manager about this and they can do this for you.

**oyropa** · 9 July 2012, 12:23 pm

@ Thx Robin , now finally all questions cleared.....

**lots0** · 9 July 2012, 12:34 pm

From what I see...

More and better communication between Affiliate and Affiliate Manager is the key to stop issues like this before they become problems.

**oyropa** · 10 July 2012, 3:29 pm

Originally Posted by Defense

@thepogg

In my opinion, online casinos or bookmakers are criminal, if they lock winning players / sports bettors in any manner.

The best example of this unacceptable behavior is 888.

Defense

.... player continues winning...

**CityGuard** · 13 July 2012, 12:32 pm

ADMINISTRATOR'S NOTE: During the course of this discussing Oyropa's report, a separate discussion arose about general practices in how operators manage winning sports bettors. In order to ensure that both discussions are able to continue in a productive manner, I have split the two topics into two threads. This thread will continue to be about the original topic (Oyropa's individual situation) and a new thread about operators' policies on winning sports bettors is now available at https://www.active-income.com/forum/managing-...es-206096.html.

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