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    Hey everyone, I hope you're all doing good.

    Does anyone have any experience with using more than one 301 redirect to a new site?

    I have two existing sites in the same niche (betting), and both are due for major upgrades. However I'd like to start under a new brand name and 301 redirect the two existing websites.

    I would then set up new pages and redirect any related existing pages to them.

    I'm wondering if this is a viable solution? Are there any potential issues?

    Any tips or insights for be great.

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    Ideally, use one 301 and do it the right way. You shouldn't use more than one. If you are going to do it, it won't make a difference unless it is topical.

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    Hi Edgarf76,

    Thanks for your reply.

    If I have domain A (sport sbetting) and I upgrade it to new theme etc. Then point just one 301 domain B (sports betting). Would that work?

    Both sites are related, and have articles that would do well on a single topical site?

    Appreciate your answers.

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    If I am reading the question correctly it seems you are over complicating it. You stated:

    Quote Originally Posted by tallman View Post
    I have two existing sites in the same niche (betting), and both are due for major upgrades. However I'd like to start under a new brand name and 301 redirect the two existing websites.
    Site #1 gets one redirect in htaccess or web.config
    Site #2 gets one redirect in htaccess or web.config

    Each of these will point to the new domnain.

    == #2 ==
    But then your 2nd posts says something different that domain A will point to a new theme? Changing a theme or layout of the site does not need a redirect, unless you are changing things like /page.html to /page/ but that has nothing to do with moving to a new domain.

    Your 2nd post does not state if domain B will be moved to a new domain, if so it will need a redirect to the new domain.

    If domain B will point to domain A, and domain A will get page changes, this would be handled within a single redirect one on each domain.

    You will just need to make sure the structure of the 301 defines the domain A correctly as the destination.

    To clarify, if both domains are moving to a new domain, each old domain needs a single redirect to the new domain.


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    I apologize if I misunderstood what you actual plans are, with more clarifications on the actual outcome you are trying to achieve would help.

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    Hi Rick,

    Thanks for taking time to reply.

    Sorry for the confusion. Originally I was planning on using a fresh domain, with both current betting sites 301 redirecting to it.

    However, I plan to keep the original domain A, and do a theme upgrade (keeping the same site structure, urls etc.)

    I'll then set one 301 from domain B to domain A.

    Should I set the redirect at the domain registrar or is using htaccess a better option?

    Appreciate your thoughts and help.

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    For the redirect that exists on domainA, you just want to make sure and page name changes are covered if there are any, but mostly a theme change will not affect page names unless you do that manually, so you likely do not need anything specific for this.

    For the 301 domainB to domainA part of that decision depends on whether the domain is currently hosted, and whether it will stay hosted a while. Will all old pages from domainB be pointed at the home or will domainB/page5/ need to be pointed at domainA/page5/?

    And doing the redirect at the registrar level, will in most cases not be treated as a 301. This will also not allow for much in the way of page handling if it is needed.

    As for the syntax of the redirect, depending on your needs will determine that. If you get stuck on that plenty of folks here can help with that. Just remember to test with different browsers and browser sessions when you put it in place so that your cache is not messing up the testing.

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    We've merged multiple sites into one new site before, there's no problems doing it (provided you set it up right).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tallman View Post
    Should I set the redirect at the domain registrar or is using htaccess a better option?
    A registrar redirect won't have an ssl cert so htaccess is preferable. You'll also have more control doing it that way.

    Something else to bear in mind is that if you're using htaccess and a free ssl (eg: autossl or lets encrypt) you'll want to exclude the .well-known directory from the redirect, otherwise the ssl won't renew.
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    Hi Rick and Baldidiot, thank you both for your detailed responses.

    Ideally I want to set a 301 redirect so I can point current pages on domain B to new pages on domain A.

    I've only previously used redirects at the registrar or withing wordpress using Rankmath. It sounds like I'll need to learn more about .htaccess to set this up the best way for long term.

    Domain B is currently on a seperate shared hosting, is it fine to leave it hosted there and do the 301/htaccess? Or would it be better to host it on the same cloudways server as Domain A?

    Thanks again, really appreciate your insights and advice
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    According to my experience using 301 redirect cut ~25% link juice of the previous site. But I used only 1 redirect to each site. Can test what happens when using 2 of them, but use 302 redirect firstly

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    Hi, do you have any updated results? I will need to redirect some sites as well, so I am ready to learn how did you decide.

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    301 redirect is a hit or miss method, sometimes it can increase your site's ranking heavily within the first month.

    My suggestion is to always make the 301 as natural as possible. Redirect the old posts to relevant new posts.

    If your old site is constantly crawled by Google, you should be seeing your old keywords ranked in your new site within days. (Which is a sign of the 301 went through)

    But it's all about trial and error, I have had really bad experience and good experience in doing 301s.

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    Hey everyone, thank you for your tips and advice, really appreciated. I'm in the process of setting the new site up, so still have to add the pages from the other domain. Both sites are betting related, so hoping to make it as natural as possible. I will update after complete and report any results
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