Your licence link doesn't work, Condor Affiliates ...

**Roulette Zeitung** · 26 March 2015, 1:54 pm

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Rembrandt Casino
Casino Sieger

Let's imagine: I am a player.
If I scroll down your brands to the bottom then I will find an area like this:

Certificates
Link: "Licences"
Link: "RNG Certificates"

Both links (!) are going to the same url, to two RNG certificates (Valid for Link: "RNG Certificates")
The important link "Licences" does not work properly.
I found no other working link to an active licence information (e.g. licence number) nor any other detailed licence information published on the brand websites.

Have I overlooked something? I will be more than happy if you can correct me. However, please fix the "Licences" link. If there is no "Licences" information to share, then please remove the link. This would be very nice.

By the way and just for interest: Are the cost of a permanent Costa Rica license still $5.000 USD in legal fees and $500 for legal and administrative costs?

Thank you for your attention.

Leopold

**-Shay-** · 26 March 2015, 2:36 pm

I didn't realize Costa Rica had a gambling licence?

**MichaelCorfman** · 27 March 2015, 8:28 am

Originally Posted by -Shay-

I didn't realize Costa Rica had a gambling licence?

My understanding is that Costa Rica has business licenses, and that gambling sites operating out of Costa Rica are required to hold such licenses. So, it is reasonable for Costa Rica sites to say they are licensed there - it means they meet the requirement to legally operate from within that jurisdiction. But it does not mean there is a gaming regulator they are accountable to in Costa Rica.

Michael

**Triple7** · 27 March 2015, 5:43 pm

I thought they had something like a "data processing license" for companies and recently a e-gaming license. But I think also without that license you're able to operate there as long as you don't bother locals.

So for what it's worth. At least they should add a working certificate.

**-Shay-** · 28 March 2015, 5:53 am

Originally Posted by MichaelCorfman

My understanding is that Costa Rica has business licenses, and that gambling sites operating out of Costa Rica are required to hold such licenses. So, it is reasonable for Costa Rica sites to say they are licensed there - it means they meet the requirement to legally operate from within that jurisdiction. But it does not mean there is a gaming regulator they are accountable to in Costa Rica.

Michael

And in the other thread - it appears as if accountability is exactly the problem.

**Roulette Zeitung** · 31 March 2015, 1:36 pm

"Rembrandtcasino is licensed by the government of Costa Rica."

"We are a corporation incorporated under the laws of Costa Rica and are fully operating legal."

"The construction, validity and performance of this agreement will be governed by the laws of Costa Rica and the courts of Costa Rica shall have exclusive jurisdiction."

"The website and associated products are belongings from Condor Gaming SRL, De Casa Matute 50MTS Este, San Jose."

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Michael Corfman
"My understanding is that Costa Rica has business licenses, and that gambling sites operating out of Costa Rica are required to hold such licenses. So, it is reasonable for Costa Rica sites to say they are licensed there - it means they meet the requirement to legally operate from within that jurisdiction. But it does not mean there is a gaming regulator they are accountable to in Costa Rica."

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A Costa Rica [gambling] license obviously has the same value as a Costa Rica liquor store license. If there is any problem with money, players and webmasters are without a chance because place of jurisdiction is Costa Rica with a suspicious offshore address and unknown responsible individuals. They are acting anonymous here.

I am sorry, but this is not the casino business I am dreaming of.

No reply from the anonymous representative here in this thread. What a pity.

But there is evidence, that they are reading here: The "licences" link -public since years- was removed now -after years- ... on the quiet!

......... [BEFORE] ..................... [AFTER] .............

Replaced with a 2nd (!) "Responsible Gambling" link.

Thank you for removing the link, "Condor Team". Yes, I am quite serious.

And thank you for the nice reply and keeping us up to date.
Very professional.

Leopold

**brodog** · 8 April 2015, 3:24 am

Condor just shot me an email with "an offer you can't resist" to sign up with their aff program and promote b-Bets.

Thanks for the info guys and for starting this thread, Leopold. The glaring lack of response from their AM says it all.

I guess I can happily resist that offer...

**CondorAff-Christine** · 13 April 2015, 9:45 am

Hi There,

We rapidly removed the "license" link in question after seeing your post, as we agreed the page being linked to only included RNG certificates and did not cover licensing. So thanks for the heads up regarding the link

. I apologize that I did not provide an update this on this forum before now, and see it would have been valuable if I had done so. I am in the very final stage of my pregnancy and am sorry for the delay in posting a response.

In my opinion this topic was started to discuss the licensing from our casino. So, to follow up on this, I would like let you know where Condor Gaming stands in this area.

As you probably know, there are a lot of ongoing discussions regarding local regulations in online gaming. As an example, in Germany, in the Netherlands and in other specific countries, there is no clarity on the exact timeline, approach and details that will be required to obtain a local license. A Maltese license, for instance, is now as valuable as any other European license when you reach out to players in the Netherlands or Germany or else where. Certainly it is the case the Malta Lotteries and Gaming Authority (LGA) has its guidelines, checks and balances and rules in place. All of our providers have a Maltese License, among others, and the outcome of their games is therefore governed by their license terms. And the LGA guidelines have become common practice in our brand as well. We certainly acknowledge the objective and subjective value of holding an EU online gaming license and we are currently researching for a global licensing option in the EU in addition to actively researching the best direct licensing options for ourselves.

Regards,
Christine
Affiliate Manager

**Roulette Zeitung** · 29 April 2015, 5:14 am

"As an example, in Germany [...] there is no clarity on the exact timeline, approach and details that will be required to obtain a local license."

In Germany the situation is more difficult. In accordance with German Criminal Code, Chapter Twenty-five Punishable Greed, Section 285 (Participation in an Unauthorized Game of Chance), players can be punished with imprisonment for up to six months or a fine of up to one hundred eighty daily rates if they play in online casinos without a REAL GERMAN license, and at least two German individuals were sentenced.

Any online casino with an EU license or other "licenses" from e.g. banana republic are simply "prohibited" places for German players.
If you live in Bavaria, then you must fear the law, because the Bavarian prosecutors don't mess around, they're always dead serious, everything's forbidden.

And the fistful of "real German" licenses that are active for some casinos?
Nothing but melting berry jelly dessert.
Why?
We have 16 federal states in Germany, and these "real German" licenses are only valid in one of them, in "Schleswig-Holstein".
It was a lobby act based on connections between little 5% party "FDP" in "Schleswig-Holstein" and the gambling industry in Germany, the "Gauselmann-Connection". By the way ... Mr. Gauselmann and Playtech, a very interesting story.

Christine, if you have a german speaking colleague in your office, then she/he should read regarding the "Gauselmann-Connection" this article (https://www.spielhalleninsider.com/we...t-steigt/0024/) and the last third of this article (https://www.roulettezeitung.com/betru...lhallen/00601/).

Then you know where the wind is blowing and what the word "gaming license" in Germany really means.

Leopold

**Triple7** · 29 April 2015, 5:41 am

A Maltese license, for instance, is now as valuable as any other European license when you reach out to players in the Netherlands or Germany or else where. Certainly it is the case the Malta Lotteries and Gaming Authority (LGA) has its guidelines, checks and balances and rules in place. All of our providers have a Maltese License, among others, and the outcome of their games is therefore governed by their license terms. And the LGA guidelines have become common practice in our brand as well. We certainly acknowledge the objective and subjective value of holding an EU online gaming license and we are currently researching for a global licensing option in the EU in addition to actively researching the best direct licensing options for ourselves.

Not true. The KSA does not take action against Maltese licenseholders that are having banners in Dutch, they also do see the LGA as an example. They are even in cooperation with LGA.

I'm sure that a online casino that has a Maltese license got some +++ when it's about a Dutch license in 2016 or 2017 and that a online casino that's licensed somewhere in the Americas or not even licensed doesn't got those +++. They actually confirmed something like that.

**Peterf21** · 1 May 2015, 1:11 pm

I am not so sure what you are exactlytrying to explain: this time Come On casino was in the focus and nexttime it might be another online casino with any other license – ornot.
As far as it is for now, we all know that licenses issued indifferent countries Malta, Curacao, Gibraltar, Costa Rica, etc... ,do not influence the credibility of any casino.
It is the typicalcrap of politics (what you can even read in the useful links of“Roulette Zeitung”). Always talking about insecurity and blabla –they should look at themselves... - There are many reliable andtrustworthy online casinos on the market.. - and a fine like Come Onor Unibet(https://www.casino.org/news/netherlan...urt-ruling)had to pay, doesn't even mean that these casinos are bad in any way.
You mentioned that KSA would not take any action against Malteselicenseholders - but exactly this happened with Come On and theyhave to pay.
KSA, LGA...- that all reminds me of a certain song:
Is this the M.P.L.A or is this the U.D.A or is this the I.R.A, Ithought it was the UK, Or just another country, Another counciltenancy
Now I make this to a little privatecontest: who recognises the song ( ey - and don't ask google first,ok?)

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